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  Plastic buckets in Paradise

  by Sour Grapes in

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  i remember one picture of a pretty little girl holding a plastic bucket in paradise next to a tame lion.. i asked my wife if there is going to be polution in paradise?

  of course the answer is no!!!!!..

  i asked her where did the plastic bucket come from?

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  Trillaz said that roughly 10% of the Watchtower study is talking about the pictures. The picture in today's study of first century Christains preaching is a keeper. The comments at my hall were "notice that our first century brothers going door to door have their book bags with them however they did not have the Watchtower and the Awake magazines back then." Someone else chimes in with "look how far we have come compared to the first century. We are now using our IPads featuring JW.Org." Our hall with analyze the pictures even considering the posture and smiles on the faces in the pics. Witnesses consider the pictures in the Watchtower as from God.
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  Plastic buckets in Paradise

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
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  i remember one picture of a pretty little girl holding a plastic bucket in paradise next to a tame lion.. i asked my wife if there is going to be polution in paradise?

  of course the answer is no!!!!!..

  i asked her where did the plastic bucket come from?

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  I remember one picture of a pretty little girl holding a plastic bucket in paradise next to a tame lion.

  I asked my wife if there is going to be polution in paradise? Of course the answer is no!!!!!.

  I asked her where did the plastic bucket come from? To make this bucket you will need plastic

  injection molding machines. The cast iron castings that make these molds can weigh up to 3,000#.

  Which means that you will need foundries to make the molds which means that we will need pig iron,

  manganese, iron ore, magnesium, silicon and sand. Who is going to dig up the paradise earth to get

  all of this stuff out of the ground? Who is going to make the earth moving equipment to dig these minerals

  out of the ground? Who is going to process the ores to get the final elements foundries need to make the castings

  that will be machined to make the molds to make the plastic bucket? Who is going to make all of the machines

  that do the machining? How are we going to transport the 3,000# castings to get them to the machine shops?

  Will there we trucks and roads? Who is going to maintain the roads? Who is going to make the road paving

  equipment? I doubt if elephants will just use their trucks to pick up the castings. Then we have the problem of

  what are we going to use for power to melt the castings for the molds and to machine the molds for the buckets?

  Are we going to have electricty or oil? Will there be oil refineries or coal fired electrical generators. Who is going to

  drill for the oil or mine the coal not to mention who is going make all of the eqiupment to do this. The picture I just

  painted sounds like what we have now. Maybe we are in paradise. Mayabe it will just be easier if we don't

  have plastic buckets in paradise. The final answer my wife gave me of where did the plastic bucket come from

  was "maybe Jehovah will just snap his fingers and it will be there." Now you can see why you can not reason with

  witnesses. They have a fairytail dream. I also wanted to know why doesn't the Watchtower show the inside of

  the beautiful houses in paradise ? Maybe because there won't be refigerator's, stoves, or running water without

  the old fashion hand pumps with outhouses behing the house. I hope that I won't get stuck with the job of picking

  up all of the lion and elelphant crap in the neighbor hood. I wish that God would hurry up and kill 99.9% of mankind

  so that I can see how that plastic bucket gets made.
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  How do JW's know if their ministry is successful?

  by Sour Grapes in

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  in my hall there have been three individuals baptized in the past 2 years and.

  they are all children of jw families.

  we have quit a few pioneers so there is.

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  In my hall there have been three individuals baptized in the past 2 years and

  they are all children of JW families. We have quit a few pioneers so there is

  not much to show for all of the hours being put in. Witnesses are being trained

  to count sucess not by growth but by how many hours they put in and how many

  magazines are placed and now how many tracts are placed. Years ago when there were

  specialtract campaigns we never counted tracts but now it is important to do so. Counting

  tacts is important because before too long I am guessing that the magazines will

  not be offered door to door but tracts will. If witnesses were told that they no longer

  have to turn in our hours the emotional let down would be overwhelming. The latest

  thing for motivation is due to the latest tract drive you have encouraged people to turn

  to the internet with the results of millions of hits on JW.Org. Everyone will feel good

  even though there is no growth in the congregation.

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  PART TWO of AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE BY A PRACTICING JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

  by Sparks in

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  while you are sitting there reading this, there are literally hundreds of thousands of young males and females all over the world [ mostly in america / canada and england] sitting in their grotty little smelly bedrooms or flats, designing computer viruses that they will up-load onto web-sites to cause anonymous innocent peoples computers to malfunction.

  these creeps spend literally weeks,months or even years hoping to make a computer viruses that will get into peoples computer bios to completely destroy their computers.

  they never see the peoples anger, frustration and distress.... the damage can cost each person about 1,000 [ $1,660.74 ] or more to replace a basic new laptop or tower.

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  Sparks is getting in his time. If a JW stumbles upon this site and loses their faith then they never truly believed in the WTBS to begin with. They just need an excuss to flee the insanity. All of the millions of hits on the JW.Org should then convince millions of people to become JW's. God's site has got to be stronger than this site.

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  I hear it but I can't believe it

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
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  my elder friend told me that his kh is in need of upgrading their electronic system so that they can be ready for the big zone meeting in november and they need the flat screen televisions mounted to also enjoy all future special meetings put on by the branch.

  the branch has given them the exact specifications and he mentioned the branch wants to use apple products.

  they passed a resolution for a one time donation by the publishers to pay for the $6,000.00 system.

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  My elder friend told me that his KH is in need of upgrading their electronic system so that they can be ready for the big Zone meeting in November and they need the flat screen televisions mounted to also enjoy all future special meetings put on by the Branch. The Branch has given them the exact specifications and he mentioned the Branch wants to use Apple products. They passed a resolution for a one time donation by the publishers to pay for the $6,000.00 system. Of course they had these funds a couple of months ago in their account until the WTBTS said that these funds was extra cash not needed by the congregation and should be given to them to help with the worldwide work.

  At my hall a comment was made about how Jehovah's organization is moving so fast with new technology and we need to keep up with it and that He wants us to use the Ipads at the door so we need to adapt to the new way of preaching. Again Ipads seem to be the preference by the rank and file. Who is going to pay for all of the data used? The time is very near that if you are not using a tablet that you will be looked at as being spiritual weak.

  My wife has been telling everyone about JW.Org and she doesn't even know how to use a tablet.

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  Special invitations to the summer assembly

  by Sour Grapes in

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  a husband and wife receive an invite to the assembly in atlanta.

  that rather than driving 4 hours for the public talk, let me call the local kingdom.

  hall and see if someone can pick us up sunday morning.

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  A husband and wife receive an invite to the assembly in Atlanta. They say

  that rather than driving 4 hours for the public talk, let me call the local Kingdom

  Hall and see if someone can pick us up Sunday morning. We can just get a Coke,

  fries and a hamburger at the stadium
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  It about the money, counting and a few notes from our SAD

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during the special memorial campain the congregation was told to count all of.

  the invitations on their time report, which i think is something new.

  thursday night.

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  During the special Memorial campain the congregation was told to count all of

  the invitations on their time report, which I think is something new. Thursday night

  we were told that for the special campain for the summer assembly that we are to count

  all invitaions and that no magazines are to be offered, during the 5 week period, only the invites.

  I think that what is going to happen is that with the change in the World Wide Work contributions

  that currently all congregations are told what to contribute by the CO. I would imagin

  that the Watchtower and Awake deck cost about $.05 to $.10. I think that there will be

  a special compain after the assemblies to throw out a trial ballon....."Hello for 100 years

  Jehovah's Witnesses have been visiting or neighbors offering the Watchtower and Awake.

  We are please to announce that you will now be able to receive these magazines at our

  new website JW.Org. Here is an invitation to look at and it contains the web address."

  The important thing is that Witnesses need to count stuff. They are very religous about

  counting magazines, books and hours. The WTBTS would have the witnesses count these

  and not magazines. The important thing is that they need to count something. The cost

  for an invitation is probalbly around $.01 to $.02 each. With the new arrangement coming up

  for contributions the congregation locks in with the current amount for the magazines then later

  on the special invitations are substitued for the mags at the same locked in donation costs.

  Talk about increasing profits.

  A few notes from our SAD. We were told that too many friends are calling in for the meetings

  rather than attenting. The phone lines are for the frail, fevered and fractured and no one else.

  The CO also mentioned that some are questioning why a one day assembly cost $6,000?

  The answer is don't forget friends this is not just for today it is for the entire year.

  After the Memorial I talked with an elder and asked him if we have an partakers? He said that

  we had 3 but we did not count them because they are not qualified.

  On Memorial night we do not allow call ins for the frail, fevered and fractured because the

  can not be counted.

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  Take away these 4 words and JW's would be tongue tied

  by Sour Grapes in

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  soon, near, special, and obey.

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  soon, near, special, and obey
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  4 generations and Jehovah's protection

  by Sour Grapes in

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  i saw a news article on line last week of a family portrait.

  there were 4 individuals in the.

  picture.

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  I saw a news article on line last week of a family portrait. There were 4 individuals in the

  picture. An old great grandmother, a grandmother, a mother and a baby girl.

  The caption said "4 generations". The caption shoud have read "2 over lapping

  generations" I guess the news papers don't keep us with the true meaning of

  a generation.

  An elder gave a talk several weeks ago and he talked about the recent terrible

  tornadoes in Oklahoma City and due to Jehovah's protection not one witness was

  killed. No mentioned was made about the number of people who were killed or

  injured. I guess when a witness out in service or going to an assembly gets killed

  in an accident that they did not have Jehovah's protection and that in Satan's system

  time and unforeseen occurances effect everyone.

  All of these things just makes me Sour Grapes.
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  WT Society holds EXTREME Responsibility for 1975 and False Expectations

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  however- many jw's who have come into the jw organization from like 1985 forward virtually may have no knowledge of the wt society's 1975 debacle and false predictions of the end times or armageddon predictions.

  just like in in the book 1984 by george orwell the wt society has a way of not only erasing it's history so no newer witnesses will be aware of their false predictions, but also they are re-writing their history as if those false predictions never happened.. so for those of you here who may have never read or heard of how whipped up into an emotional frenzy witnesses were in the years just before 1975 by the wt society claiming the end was any day now- this threads for you.

  to see the pressure that was put on jw's by the wt society to get rid of everything before " armageddon " .

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  Flipper, I think that it is nice how you respond to those who write on your thread. Sour Graps